Taiwo Awoniyi scored two goals and provided an assist as Union Berlin thrashed Finnish side KuPS 4-0, in the Europa Conference League first-leg play-off tie on Thursday, Completesports.com reports.
Awoniyi has now scored three goals in his last two games for Union Berlin.
He scored the only goal in Union Berlin’s 1-1 home draw against Leverkusen, in their first Bundesliga game of the season.
The Nigerian striker opened the scoring in the 7th minute and got his second goal on 31 minutes to make it 3-0.
He provided the assist for Union Berlin’s second goal scored by Max Kruse in the 29th minute.
The return leg comes up in Germany next Thursday and the winner over two legs will progress into the group stage.
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_ Steps In The Right Direction _
It is difficult to see Taiwo Awoniyi staking a claim as one of the Super Eagles strikers ahead of World Cup qualifiers and the Afcon proper next year to be hosted by noisy neighbours Cameroon.
Not that the 2013 Under-17 legend hasn’t come of age but because the glut of attacking firepower open to the Super Eagles at the moment makes it a labour of love for Rohr to select 3 – 4.
Osimhen, Iheanacho and Onuachu are the automatic 3 centre forwards for the Super Eagles at this time barring injuries or loss of form.
They are all tried and tested and quite established as internationals.
So, can Awoniyi gatecrash the Super Eagles forward line?
He is surely taking steps in the right direction. Watching the 2 goals he scored against KUPs in the Champions League today were like watching a master craftman in action.
From nowhere for his first goal, Awoniyi pierced into the 18 yard box to meet a delicious low cross with an equally sublime finish that left the goalkeeper clutching at straws.
His second came the way of a sumptuous swivel before crashing the back of the net with a goal made for a grander stage.
Plus, he scored in his first game of the season.
With these sort of output, productivity and class, ignoring Awoniyi will be near impossible. But the national team can only accommodate just a few players.
Moffi, Maja (Josh who??) and others are also likely to make headlines with goals as the season progresses.
So competition will be nail-biting.
However, all Taiwo can do is keep finding the back of the net with noticeable regularity.
As that happens, he would at least have made a compelling case for himself.
At 24 years of age, he will still fit into Rohr’s narrative of his “young team”.
When South Africa humiliated his Super Eagles in 2017 in Uyo, they were a young team. When they lost agonisingly against Argentina in the 2018 World Cup, his team was young. When they were stopped in thier tracks by Belmadi’s Algeria in 2019, they were young. Now, as Rohr leads his charge to the towards the denoment of his controversial reign as Super Eagles coach, they are still young.
In the words of Pompei, ‘the young shall grow’.
If truth be told, Rohr’s boys are mature, experienced and not so young.
And Awoniyi will definitely fit such a ‘not so young’ outfit if he stays consistent.
Correction : denouement…
‘Now, as Rohr leads his charge to the towards the DENOUEMENT.
Great write up as usual @ Deos. However, I think Awoniyi cannot be easily ruled out of gatecrashing into the SE before AFCON. If he continues to have goal contributions in the manner he’s been doing since his loan moves to Belgium and recently Germany, until this current transfer.
From my perspective the guy has been very consistent and like you insinuated he’s got all it takes to be in SE.
I must say that if he continues to impress in the Bundesliga on a consistent basis, GR may be tempted to give him a look in & it will be left to him to prove himself if he’s invited.
If Onuachu & Sadiq remains in Belgium and La Liga 2 respectively, performing consistently in the Bundesliga could just be an edge that Taiwo’s camp may capitalize on to push his course.
The most likely occurence is that Taiwo won’t make the AFCON team list (just like we all suspect), but if he keeps doing the right things like you advised, circumstances like injury or loss of form may change things in his favor.
My thoughts.
More wisdom brother….Young team after 6 six years…same excuse we keep getting. In recent times, no coach has spent so much a time with the SE and had no strong team. May the soul of Stephen Keshi continue to rest in peace…the anti-local coaches gang will always not mention Keshi when the foreign vs Local coaches discussions come up…they are quick to see the failures of local coaches but blind to the successes of the Stephen Keshi and other local coaches at our U17s and our U20s. Since ROhr took over, age-grade football took a death poison in Nigeria…have we asked ourselves why? This shows that there is a gap somewhere…a gap that needs to be filled asap!! If i know nothing about Nigerian football…i know for sure our our age-grade handlers liaise with whoever the coach of the SE is….is there any link between Rohr and the handlers ? Is there exchange of ideas or tactics on how these talents should be managed? These questions need answer……
@Adeniyi, it is insincere to try to lay the blame of our youth team performances at the doorstep of Mr. Rohr. Most especially when the reasons for our decline are front and center for all to see. Let’s blame Rohr (who from all indications has nothing to do with the youth setup) instead of the NFF for camping boys in a matter of days prior to qualifiers, for selecting half wit coaches and also the strong insinuations of Godfathers imposing players and coaches collecting bribe to choose players. Let’s blame Rohr for our lack of grass-root development plan, lack of quality youth competitions in secondary school like we used to have in the days of yore.
Finally, let’s blame Rohr for the fact that this wrist scan thingy now rules out near 30 year olds from playing u-17 football!
Look Rohr hasn’t been delivering of late but please be objective in your criticism.
don’t b carried away. these are fringe player.non in uefc non can bring magic wen hope lust no free kick taker y are Nigerians always dream too much. if De win afcon is by luck.
@Deo , thumbs up for this your sublime analysis. Nothing to add
@Deo to balance your submission on young team. When they shocked Argentina in a friendly match before world cup, they were a young team. When they trashed Cameroon home and away in world cup qualifiers, and beat Algeria, they were also a young team, when they defeated Egypt, Poland, Iceland, they were still the same young team. When they held Ukraine, star studded Brazil, it was still the same young team.
So that means young is not necessarily a sign of weakness, as many of us want to assume. The beauty of any young team is that there is room for growth and improvement. And that clearly defines our Current Super Eagles.
Beautiful addendum @Ikeben. May you continue to walk without stumbling.
I just quickly did a quick check on the ages of the players of the team Rohr refers to as Young to see if the man has committed any crime to call them young. I took a look at our “Most Likely” 23 man list for the forthcoming AFCON and here’s what I found.
1. Okoye 21
2. Bassey 21
3. Uzoho 22
4. Samu 22
5. Osimhen 22
6. Kalu 23
7. Aina 24
8. Awaziem 24
9. Zaidu 24
10. Ndidi 24
11. Onyeka 24
12. Onyekuru 24
13. Iheanacho 24
14. Sadiq 24
15. Ebuehi 25
16. Aribo 25
17. Etebo 25
18. Iwobi 25
19. Troost 27
20. Omeruo 27
21. Onuachu 27
22. Musa 28
23. Balogun 32
Out of a team of 23, only 5 are above the age of 25, a further 4 are 25 and the remaining 14 are below 25…..that 61% of the team.
We could easily have taken numbers 1 – 18 on that list to Tokyo 2021 as our Olympics team If we had qualified. This team can easily pass for our Olympic squad. If a country parades what could pass for its olympic team at any senior competition, would it not be said that they are parading a young squad…????
Plus the ones over 25, the average age of the team is 24.52 years old.
Minus the 5 who are over 25, the average age of the team is 23.5 years old
PLEASE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN……..IS THE TEAM NOT YOUNG….????????
@DrDrey, I love the fact you argue with facts. Keep it up bro.
Dr Drey, I greet you with my two hands up.
I can’t but love your perspective to the ‘young team issue’, coupled with the way you backed it up with facts (in your usual manner).
These are the types of opinions we love to read in this CSN forum, not the type written by the proponents of ‘muscle memory’. lol.
Hehehehehe….are you referring to people who have been watching football since Abidjan 84 but didnt know that Ikpeba did not go to USA 94 with just 2 caps….LMAOoooo…? Or the ones who were exfootballers but didnt know there was no limit to substitutions in friendlies until FIFA ammended the rules to a limit of 6 in 2004….? LMAOOooo
In the words of Fatai Rolling Dollars “…awon omode wonyi kere si number wa…”
Thanks my brother, you are highly regarded.
@Dr.Drey and @OmoEsan… They are back with double standards… Stop deceiving yourselves. The ages of those born in Nigeria are questionable… according @Dr.Drey… a.k.a Saturngod… Anayo Iwuala who just entered NPFL in 2019 is 35yrs… and Ahmed Musa who played NPFL in 2010 is 28yrs… A “young team” needs a “young coach” not an “ancestor” or “old coach”… Oya… Zeus of CSN gimme 24dislikes… Lol.
We are still waiting for Victor Ikpeba’s missing international caps… someone with confused facts mentioning that Ike Shorunmu and Pascal Ojigwe played out friendlies in 1994 against Sweden and Colombia… Skilled liar who can’t substantiate claims with proof… let’s see the list of those games na… according to hausas… “inaaaaa?”
You are supposed to be covered head to toe in ashes and sack clothes in contriteness for your lying binge and convoluted narratives here… Kanu Nwankwo played against Sweden and was the only Japan 93 squad member in that game who had to be axed from USA 94 squad with Tijani Babangida at the last minute…. Saturngod is here lying about Pascal Karibe Ojigwe in 1994.
A god on CSN called Zeus who lies and convolute facts for a living… just to have his ego massaged!
https://youtu.be/-rM9xKFIFOk
Lawal’s brace plus assist against Maccabi Haifa
Dont know this guy, but he put up a great performance in this game.
Someone should please share awoniyi’s goals and assist.
And by the way, awoniyi can still make the super eagles team. He is better than both moffi (who has been given an opportunity to play for the super eagles) and paul onuachu (who isn’t really consistent in terms of goal scoring for Nigeria) in my own opinion. He is in form and playing in a very strong league. But at the end of the day its the coaches call. Lets see what he comes up with for the list of players to play in the upcoming qualifiers.
Awoniyi has every right to be in the national team with what I saw yesterday…..He is one of the elite players we have now plying his trade in a top5 league so why not…..He also came through the ranks from u13 u17 u20 u23 so why should he not be allowed to progress since he had always been in the system…..He is the only striker now close to Osimhen in attributes…. Strong Big Good with his legs Good holdup play Good height Fast pace Great vision and determination…..He is also young and has alot of his pals at our agegrade teams already in the SE so he won’t find it hard to integrate….. Awoniyi has really matured in his all round game and it will be shameful for Nigeria to go to war without one of our best weapon.
@Akp… I can’t but agree with you. He is the closest in playing style to Osimhen… We can even play a 352 or 442 and deploy him and Osimhen against dangerous teams same time…
A boy on candies parade has not met the real fact of celebration!! Awo-candy
@Deo great write up as usual. Do you do editing work for authors. We may have to get in touch with you. But let me correct something here… Iheanacho will not go to afcon innonr of the strikers spots but innthe midfield.
@Dr drey. Thanks as usual for the facts. The problem u have with rohr is that he does not talk confidence. There was no need for him to start mentioning young tean at this time. The players started early in the national team so they are experienced now. Nigerians see his utterances as sign of looking for the right excuses if the team fail in afcon.
The team is young but matured. What he should be telling now is that his team is good enough to go all the way.
Awoniyi will give more to eagles than onuachu. Onuachu style deos not suit the eagles and he is not ready to adjust. Awoniyi has been part of the Nigerian set up for years at youth level.
His style of play suits our style. I hope he continues to improve.
My own consideration for strikers:
Oshimen
Sodiq
Simy
Awoniyi
Onuachu
Moffi
Great comment, now Nigerians are going by form we still have Dessers and Ike Ugbo who can also deliver if chances delivers itself. But I am asking if the coach will remember to invite Ejuke to unlock defense for this two qualifiers?
For me, EJUKE SHOULD BE IN THE SUPER EAGLES TEAM. WE NEED A WINGER LIKE HIM. FAST, SKILLFUL, NOT EASILY PUSHED OF THE BALL, HE GOES PAST DEFENDERS EASILY, HE CREATES AND SCORES GOALS. HE IS WHO WE WANT AHMED MUSA TO BE. BUT FOR SOME REASON HE ISNT BEING USED. ONLY THE COACH KNOWS WHY.
Is Rohr team really “young”?
It is practically undeniable that the current Super Eagles set up have an average age of 23 years old which would undoubtedly qualify them for that description.
However, we need to look at what the term ‘young’ denotes which is beyond the average age of players.
Using just this metric – average age of players- is parochial and doesn’t seem to begin to address the entire perception put forward by the term.
In FIfa Word Cup tournaments (minus Olympics), there are 2 age groups: Under 17 and Under 21. Out of the list put forward by Dr Drey above, only 2 players can feature in under 21 world cup (just about as they are both 21) and none, I mean 0 can feature in the under 17 world cup.
The England national team to the recently concluded Euros had no less than 5 players eligible for Under 17 and 21 respectively: some of whom have never featured at that level of football. Even the slightly older ones like Kelvin Phillips can be considered “young” due to lack of exposure to a grade a tournament.
Looking at the Super Eagles, are they young in age on average? Absolutely, without a shadow of doubt.
However, if “young” is to imply how long a team has been together and far along they are with regards international football exposure, then how young are they, really?
Controversially, I will still say we have a somewhat young team that is now leaning towards maturity.
This Super Eagles set up is not that young!
When 17 players out of a 23 man squad have tasted either world cup or Afcon football, then you start to see the team as young, but not that young (if that makes sense).
Many of the players have been together for several seasons and Rohr has been nurturing them for quite a while.
Okay, if we had a team – like the Super Eagles squad of 2000 – comprising of players who have been to multiple world cups and multiple Afcons, then they will qualify as my a mature team.
That is not the case with Gernot Rohr’s Super Eagles.
Players like Musa have years of experience but on the whole, the bulk of the team has only accumulated recent international experience.
But it is not like they don’t have the experience and it is not like they are 18 and 19 year olds – the age legendary Michael Owen was when he took the 1998 World Cup by storm.
Looking back and giving this deeper thought, maybe Rohr isn’t too far wide off the mark to refer to his team as young.
But he has been using to that term for a while now. Ebuehi was around 20 years old when Rohr was courting him as a young man. That he is fully developed 25 year old defender. It will be helpful (I think) to seek out a word that would reflect Ebuehi’s development, growth and maturity rather than calling him the same “young” that he was called 5 years ago.
Continually calling a team young over 5 years (using my thinking behind Ebuehi’s case above) starts to give the impression of stagnation in some quarters.
Many fans are now fed up with it!
When will Rohr come up with a term that will reflect how far and how well his team has developed since he took over.
Some coaches say “this team of hungry lads”. Others say “my evolving team” but for a team to start out “young” at the beginning of your contract and still be “young” towards the end of your contract will send the wrong message to some fans.
Now, be careful to understand my position: I said it will send the wrong message and not that – on paper – the team is not young.
Rohr’s team is somewhat young, but using that same term to describe them since he took over has gone stale!
@deo… I like how you pass your message steely and icy without giving anyone chance to attack you…
Nigerians mistake coach Rohr’s innocent and humble veiled looks for a man who is so honest and unassuming, he charms his critiques to fall for his gimmicks of using alibis…
Rohr is a master of the mind… he likes to speak of his Super Eagles as young so that people will not expect so much from the team… If they perform good, if not there is an alibi… then he plays the youth card and so stay off harsh criticisms for his tactical shortcomings…
What did he achieve with Gabon and Niger? He still got lessons from Madagascar coach and Belmedi knows how to read him like a page from a book.
Rohr is not a coach with a winning mentality… If we had Renard Harve you will have seen wonders with Super Eagles…
Rohr is another “Gather and Play” he cannot even bring the best out of his players and he does not know how to optimally manage a pool of talents.
So why did Renard fail with a star studded Moroccan team?
@Michael Adelami… Maybe the Moroccans were not so star-studded… The moroccans should be honest to themselves, the coach that had won two Afcon can’t be said to inefficient…
@Jimmyball but Niger and Gabon were star studded since all their players plays for Barcelona and Madrid.. Double faced man that you are!
@JimmyBall … Below is the Moroccan team list . Yes they are star studded team in AFRICA .
https://www.transfermarkt.com/marokko/kader/verein/3575
FYI Else Nigerian local coaches , No coach anywhere in the world will claim they are going to win any tournaments before the kickoff of the tournaments and that includes the BEST of the BEST coaches in the world in UEFA Champions league , WorldCup and EUROS .
@Ola… @NA ME TALK AM… That’s why we say football is not by club one plays we have had so many examples in Nigeria to believe that maxim… That’s why Rohr needs to know we already have the tools and they must not all be playing for elite teams…
@Deo, your write-up is wonderful, full With reflection and consideration, both the first one this last one. However, I think we are leaning the wrong way in this argument. I understand that Nigerians are one set of arrogant people and love when their ego is massaged. That’s the problem some people in this forum are having with Rohr – he is not proud, nor dose he speak tough. My question for them is how dose that concern the result? If Rohr say he has a young team in the press, do you have any idea what he says to his team on the training ground or better still, what he says to them before they step into the pitch. Have you not heard of mind game that is done to lower the expectations of the fans. So no one should preach to Rohr about motivation. Heck, the last time I check the players haven’t complain. Since he has been saying “young” team have we not been defeating teams?
About Taiwo Awoniyi, he will be called, that’s for certain. The guy is a complete striker. Taiwo is specifically built for African football. Minus injury and inconsistency, the guy has the potential of a Lukaku. In my opinion, we should be using two strikers in our matches. That would mean we will need four strikers at afcon. My list will be Osimhen, Iheancho (this guy has long since ceased being a midfielder), Taiwo and Moffi. As long as Sadiq is still playing at a second division his chances are slim. I personally like his style of play but second division is miles behind any top five league.
Lol @jimmyball, you that know how to bring out the best in players why don’t go and get a coaching badge, at least you are an ex-footballer.
Are you not even tired of mentioning the Madagascar match?! Just so you know, losing our third match in this upcoming afcon is a possibility as long as we win the first two matches. The aim is to rest the starters after qualification, since the last match is inconsequential. You see jimmy, that’s the mindset of a man whose aim is result; that’s the mindset of a man who place the tournament’s Target ahead of petty pride. What if he thinks like most of you anti-rohr fans and say since Nigeria has not lost to Madagascar he will go with his starting eleven. What will happen? He will win the match – a match that won’t have any impact in the long run – and massage your egos, so visionless fans will start running around screaming that Nigeria has never lost to Madagascar, as if that’s the priority! Then come round of sixteen, then you’ll understand that rest is a determinant factor in the game of football. Go to owngoal, Rohr has restated that that’s his plan for the upcoming afcon. So whatever team we will be playing against will have an egde against us somehow. Be it Sudan or guinea, winning our first two matches and qualifying is what matters FIRST, not history – that’s for the fans not for those who are employed to get a job done!
So you see @jimmyball, when you say strategy say Rohr. Can you imagine, that you and your fellow cohorts that are against Rohr and super eagles’ progress are so bereft of ideas that you keep mentioning matches such as Madagascar and Sierra Leone. Did you know the similarity between those two matches? They meant nothing to us in the long term.
@Kingston, I sincerely wish I could love your comment more than once.
The Madagascar loss has been a sort of joy to some people and that really baffles me. They pretend not to know Rohr’s intentions for that particular match. Did Rohr’s team not proceed to defeat Cameroun and South Africa after dusting off that Madagascar loss?
That was the error Siasia made at the Olympics. After winning his first two matches and our leadership of the group already confirmed regardless of the result of the last group matches, Siasia still went ahead to field his first eleven and left Etebo on the pitch until the guy sustained an injury that ruled him out of the rest of the tournament. Who knows may be we would have given the gold medal a shot if Etebo who was arguably our best player was fit. These are some of the shortcomings we’re pointing out about our local coaches, but some people will still tell us that our local coaches are better than Rohr. Rohr may not be the best, but he has proved to be much better than all the local coaches we’ve tried in the recent past. Local coaches that couldn’t qualify us for 3 out of 4 consecutive AFCONS.
@Kingston… I wish Coach Rohr and Super Eagles luck and success… still I know we will win with the players resolve. It’s no secret that the coach does not believe much in his players because they don’t play for top clubs… if we were going back we would not have entered the pitch to lineup against Arigo Sacchi’s Italy in 1994 because they had players who had pedigree in world football while we did not… We need Rohr to believe and drive his players with such zeal and Confidence not lameduck attitude…
I just came across a News that the NFF has reappointed Ladan Bosso again as coach of the U20 national team. With funny excuses to his losses and sighting reasons of his Talent Discoverings as the main tool of his reappointment. I find this as embarrassment to Nigerians that The NFF is toying with our emotions. How can you hire an incompetent coach who has always failed and failed again? Ladan Bosso discovered only Ighalo….. The rest of the talents in the national team were discovered by Manu Garba, Amuneke and even Siasia. What is the problem with Nigeria are we not tired of bad news and loosing? Why hire Bosso again all because of your corrupt practices of picking players not on merit but for financial gains and in the end Nigeria will suffer humiliating defeats to small countries. Football is a Joy to Nigerians that the NFF is killing it with their group of Criminal Fratanity.
I must confess…this discussion going on here is one of the most civil and sensible discussions i have seen here on CS in a while…see the way everyone is making their points without attacking anyone….Nice one guys…keep this up! More of this!
@adeniyi… Present yourself here always when it’s possible for you to contribute.
This is Nigeria’s most active sports forum where we fellowship… We also fight atimes too.
I have given some bullies personally migraine from here that I am seen as some kind of football pugilist by some active members.
I can tell you I have one who here on an assignment to help us look for Victor Ikpeba’s missing caps in his alleged 10caps earned by the player already for Nigeria seniors in the leadup to USA 94 World Cup… he has become humble a bit as a result, from his usual posture of being some database god of Nigeria soccer here on CSN.
Guy we battle it here atimes and I can tell you it’s fun if you can manage to fashion a thick skin for yourself… Lol.
Welcome bro…
Hahahaha…. coming from a filthy liar who couldn’t substantiate ALL his comments for 5days….. LMAOOO and has been sniffing his own shit till the point of vomiting blood.. LMAOoo…desperately trying to chalk off all Ikpeba’s caps to 2….LMAO
Ikpeba went to USA 94 with only 2 caps….. LMAOOO
Ikpeba was understudy to Amunike…. LMAOOO
Mr ex partaker you and your heavy lies have been creamated long ago…..move on.
Even CSN got irritated they had to start blocking your lies-filled comments….LMAO.
Filthy liar is trying to save face …… LMAOOo
You have a bigger assignment of proving to the whole world that you are not a pathetic liar….. LMAOOO.
He was watching french league as far back as 1993 but didn’t watch matches beamed live on NTA nationwide….. LMAOOO.
Bloody village boy that was lucky to have been trafficked into the civilized world….. LMAOOOO
@Dr.Dtey… Yes I had satellite from as at 1993…
We had just one NTA Channel 10 in Makurdi back the.
I had both free to air receiver and multichoice even at 1995.
Multichoice in 1995? They were officially launched in Nigeria in 1996,and if my memory does not escape me, didn’t begin airing live matches until 97/98 like that. Because of Abacha/South Africa feud that deny us participation of 96 Afcon hosted n won by SA…
Hohahahaha…@Ola….why you doing this na…??? LMAOOOo…Pls allow this pathetic liar to keep fooling himself….LMAOOO.
From watching the french league in 1993, blatant lair shifted to multichoice in 1995….LMAOOOoo….the same way he was in U17 camp with Dominic Oruma in 1995 whereas Dominic was class of 97…..LMAOOoo.
Lucifer’s acolyte could watch french league in 1993, but couldnt wacth NTA even if its on balck and white TV to know Ikpeba didnt go to USA 94 with just 2 caps……LMAOOooo
Ladies and Gentlemen…..behlod the face of an empty arrogant liar…..LMAOOooo
@Ola… Not everyone came up poor. Multichoice launched in 1994… Abacha had issues with SA govt not multichoice as a business.
No be everyone grow up for Ghetto and slum.
@Jimmyball, Dangote first born, Mr Richman, so people that were born poor doesn’t know history abi, I believe Dr Drey that called you a pathetic liar. Check your records properly, multichoice was launched in 1996 here, in partnership with a Nigerian company then, Olodo… “Abacha has problems with SA and not multichoice” I guess multichoice is from Malaysia abi Finland, you are exposing yourself too much and it’s becoming irritating.
Just as you claimed you are staying in Germany but “stayed up late” to watch a Leicester game that was played by 8pm UK time… My advice for you, don’t reply to every topic or tread on CSN
@Dr.Drey… Saturngod king of distorted facts. I was in under U-17 camp in 1997 in preparation for Meridian cup stop lying… I never said 1995. If at 1984 I was 6yrs old… Why can’t I watch Abidjan 1984, it’s not everyone that kwashiokor dealt with at infancy like you… you may have had stunted growth and slow development in growth but not one like @JimmyBall.. I was already playing street soccer then in Wurukum, Makurdi, if I was 18/19yrs in 1997 why can’t I be at U-17 camp? Justin Unoron who was Kanu Nwankwo mate in preparation for Japan 1993 was 5years my senior in school… it’s sad some of you have not had the chance to be anywhere near national camp in your life… then we played football for the joy and even till date that I no longer play… I will still soccer the likes of @Dr.Drey on the pitch!!! Don’t go and cook up Victor Ikpeba’s 10caps… Shame should not even allow you rear your head on the forum again talk more of continuing with your loud usuals…
@Jimmyball, from which team or academy are you playing for then before you were called to the u17camp? And where were you camped? Mention the technical crew and which one of them discovered you and in what competition? Otedola’s nephew
Hhahahaha @Ola. Jimmylie’s family where so rich that multichoice left lagos and abuja behind and went straight to his shack near the banks of river benue to install satellite dish in 1995 IMMEDIATELY THEY OPENED THEIR NIGERIA OFFICE……LMAOOooo….for him to watch French league IN 1993….LMAOoo.
In the 90s when there was nothing like MRI or when academies werent in fashion and our u17 players where often drawn from Nigerian league 1st and 2 division clubs in the league, infact mostly 1st division clubs sef…what are we talking…..LMAOooo….fat liar was picked up from the streets of makurdi….LMAOOOo…makurdi of ALL PLACES…..lmao to join the U17s in camp….LMAOooo.
Naturally when you are part of a team like that, you name-call popular players in that team as your teamates back then first, the likes of Ifeanyi Udeze, the likes of Okunowo, Godwin Okpara, Ikedia etc who all went on to be big names….LMAOOoo. The ONLY name he knows of that class of 97 sqaud is Dominic Oruma….LMAOOO…and it was even after it was brought to his notice that dominic was actually class of 97 he switched from 95 to 97 o. This time last year when he told us the lie freshly it was “I made the u17 camp in 1995 with James obiorah and dominic oruma”……LMAOOoo.
Verily verily all liars shall truly perish in hellfire…..LMAOooo…you know why..? because they forget their own lies after a long while….LMAOoooo
Somebody thinks everyone on CSN is a millennial fool and ignoramus like him….LMAOoo
@Dr.Drey… You the make shame catch me. Satellite Dish, with LNB transmission chain and receiver for free to air wey boys from technical sec schools don the fix since naim be serious matter for your eye? I had an uncle who has worked for Nitel since early 80s and these technologies are old… Na wa o. I believe say you been no even get access to black and white TV even by early 90s… Ghetto life really bad Sha… Lol.
Hahahahaha…your own lies dey make shame catch anybody associated to you….LMAOOoo.
From having satellite to watch french league in 1993 because you are from a wealthy family, you switched to multichoice in 1995 as if your house was the 1st place they mounted their dish when they opened their Nigeria office in 1995……now you have switched to free to air that was fixed by your technician uncle in Nitel LMAOoooo.
Why the technican uncle no fix free to air for you to watch all Ikepba’s matches on NTA network broadcast so you dont come disgracing yourself in public in year 2021 that Ikpeba only had 2 caps till 1995 when we faced England….LMAOOoo.
Between you and I who now sounds like a ghetto kid hotwiring free to air TV stations….LMAOOooo.
Look at this nonentity who was trafficked to Europe trying to act wealthy like his twin brother chima….LMAOOo
So the free to air your uncle who worked in Nitel hotwired for you showed your french league in 1993 when TV transmission there in FRANCE itself handt even gone digital…..LMAOOOoooo.
Pls kindly do us a favour and tell us the name of the station that was showing you french league in benue in 1993 via analogue tranmission….LMAOooo
Jimmylie you are a greater liar than the devil….LMAOOoo….just take a look outside your window now, you will see the devil doffing his hat for you.
Very blatant and emptily arrogant liar…..LMAOoooo. Your mates already have kids in high school, you you are here telling white lies up and down.
Devil don really get you. Whoever bluetooth is plague of telling lies from village give you did a really great job
Ha…!
@Jimmyball, stop giving excuses in advance of the imminent possibility of Rohr proving you wrong.
What do you mean when you say the team will win with the player’s resolve? So when the team wins, it’s the player’s resolve? Does this also imply that the players also decide to lose when they do?
Just read your comment again and try to make some sense of it.
You do everything within your capacity to discount and discard whatever Rohr has achieved and that’s unfair if you ask me.
When the team wins, it’s the players but when they lose it’s Rohr!
Common, Jimmy…..
@OmoEsan… My task for Rohr is simple. The day he learns and have the guts to start making timely substitutions from the 65th minute at most for players who are having an off day… I will convert to his fan… Lol.
Jimmy you have been very inconsistent all through the thread. One moment you totally agree with AKP that we need players from the top 5 leagues hence the need to call up a player like Awoniyi. Another moment it is players from the Mediterranean leagues that you will claim are far better. The fact remains that we have a lot of our hopefuls doing well in Europe at the same time and we haven’t had it this good in a very long time. There’s a competitive atmosphere in the SuperEagles at the moment especially in the attacking third where most of hopefuls are playing in the top 5 leagues . Wether you accept Rohr or not it was his influence that has led to the exodus of transfers by our players to remain relevant in the team. Don’t worry you can’t be Rohr’s fan even if he wins the WorldCup we know your type. Just continue with your usual way. Unfortunately the gaffer has already moved on from people like you. At least stay in one lane so that we know where you belong lmao!! Deep down inside you I’m sure you’re liking the fact that Rohr has created a new exciting team we can be proud of in 30 years time just like you are still talking about Westerhoff’s team today.
@Ayphillydegreat… The examples of Aghahowa, Amuneke and John Utaka has made me to not really care so much about where a player plays… Walahi. Playing in Europe is awesome if one has such opportunity… but still I know football is inside before it is outside… that’s my belief.
Of course it really matters where a player plays. It will always take a collection of quality players to win a tournament. Unfortunately bro this is almost 2022 you can’t compare playing in the Mediterranean leagues in the 90s and early 2000s to now. Even at that such a player must be exceptionally talented. Amunike went from Zamalek to Sporting Lisbon. Aghahowa went from Esperanza to Shaktar Donetsk, Utaka went from Ismaili to Al Saad of Qatar and then to Lens. Not players who have been stuck there for over 5 years. Besides, it’s not like we lack options scattered all over Europe. Like I said that player must be exceptionally good.
@Jimmyball, Who are you to be giving Rohr target? When did you become an NFF board member or have you taken over Pinnick’s position?
Please tell us just one of the targets set for Rohr by his employers that he hasn’t met. You probably feel the targets given him by NFF isn’t enough, so you have decided to add substitution target to the whole equation, lol.
I said your comment about ‘player’s resolve’ is totally out of place and you’re here setting targets.
Funny Jimmy.
They will say Nigeria have players Nigeria have players.We don’t even have player that can boast of been in CAF player of the year top 3 talkless of been d best at the moment and yet Nigeria have players that others don’t have. So Senegal, Algeria, Morocco, Egypt,Tunisia,Cameroon even Ivory coast don’t have?.
These are countries with big stars. Dey dia they deceive yourself that u have what others don’t have besides having arrays of players doesn’t even justify you will win a competition.
So the target has suddenly shifted from winning the nations cup to making subs at the 65th minute. Incredible! This clearly shows that all your gra gra against this man is baseless but has a whole lot to do with inexplicable hatred. Omoesan just rightly pointed out your line of defense to remain relevant in the scheme of things should the tables turn in rohr’s favour. You think say you’re smart. If the
team wins, it will be the players resolve but if the team loses na the coache’s fault. That’s very absurd and foolish. How on earth can u reason this way?? I used to think that u were kinda different from the other confused sorry ass fellows here, at least some of your posts had some objectivity in them but this piece here actually put u in the class of omo9ja and co Your allegations that rohr has been making late subs is a very big lie. It has shown yet again that u lack substantial facts and information about rohr and his team whilst rubbishing all the things u claimed u knew about the team and their history. I’ll shortly dig up some irrefutable facts regarding “rohr’s late subs” to prove to you that u are a liar. Wait for it….
omoesan, thanks for the reply! My brother, your own replies also has always been characterized by cool-headed reasoning. Your analogy with the Olympics is brilliant.
Sincerely, I don’t understand what is it with those clamoring for Rohr’s sack. Now I’m hearing it is because he doesn’t make substitution early. How laughable. My question is those that have been making early substitution for super eagles what was the result. Lol. Some people are even going as far as blaming Rohr for the depreciation of golden eaglet and such. My own is simple – if you don’t like Rohr just say it. Don’t use silly excuses as cover ups.
Hehehehehe….even the almighty Deo stuttered in trying to invalidate the TRUTH that this team is YOUNG and there’s no crime in calling them so.
Again I did a quick check on the no of caps of the MOST LIKELY 23man AFCON list I proposed above, based on the dimension Deo has put forward…having FIRMLY established from the average age of the team that its indeed a young team….I looked at the no of caps of the team..and here’s what I found…
S/N–Name–Age–no of Caps
1 Bassey 21 0
2 Sadiq 24 0
3 Onyeka 24 1
4 Zaidu 24 5
5 Aribo 25 6
6 Okoye 21 8
7 Ebuehi 25 9
8 Osimhen 22 12
9 Onyekuru 24 12
10 Kalu 23 13
11 Onuachu 27 13
12 Uzoho 22 17
13 Aina 24 17
14 Samu 22 19
15 Awaziem 24 20
16 Balogun 32 32
17 Iheanacho 24 33
18 Etebo 25 38
19 Ndidi 24 40
20 Iwobi 25 47
21 Troost 27 48
22 Omeruo 27 52
23 Musa 28 98
Of all 23:
Only 2 have more that 50 caps
Only 5 have more than 40 caps and
Only 8 have more the 30 caps
That’s not even a starting 11 yet
Out of 23 players only 8 players have more than 30 caps….yet the team in “experienced”
The Average number of caps of the remaining 15 players is just 10. 13 caps
A 23 man sqaud team with average age of 24 and average no of caps for the entire 23 players 23.5 caps WELL EXPERIENCED AND NOT YOUNG……LMAOOOo>
Ladies and Gentlemen….behold your OLD, MATURE and VASTLY EXPERIENCED NATIONAL TEAM WITH AVERAGE AGE OF 24.5 and 23.5 CAPS AVERAGE UNDER ITS BELT.
Mr G. Rohr, please NEVER EVER in your life call this team young again. A footballer at 24.5 years and 23.5 international caps, should be qualified as OLD and EXPERIENCED.
@Dr.Drey… Zeus a.k.a Saturngod coming to help set alibi in place for his coach Rohr a.k.a moongod… hahahaha. You no even get shame… how old was Michael Owen when he destroyed Argentina in France 1998? How old was Mbappe when he raised the world cup… Common take this young team crap and hide your face…
Hahahahaha….satan’s accolyte, between you and I who should shamefully take a sabbatical off CSN to go repair his dying image….LMAOOO.
Even others have pointed out how you have been jumping from pillar to post in servitude like a humble servant all along this tread with zero sense of direction and standing for nothing just becuase you are courting favour, friendship and sympathy….LMAOOooo. Oga all that will not wash you clean of your filthy reputation as a liar……LMAOOoo.
Agreeing sheepishly and directionless to every jack and harry’s comment would change what they know of you already as a chronic pathetic liar.
Why not tell us more lies the the entire England squad in 1998 and the entire Argentine squad in 2018 were made up of 18 year olds…..LMAOooo.
Dont worry….the SE squad is OLD with an average of 24 caps and made up of VASTLY EXPERIENCED PLAYERS….LMAOooo.
Your guadiolas that didnt call the team young couldnt even qualify for AFCON the last time we checked.
I have absolutely nothing to be ashamed about. It is you who needs a thorough spiritual bath to wash off the shame of lies that has now been identified with your name….LMAOoooo.
Even CSN Website almost caved in on the weight of your lies…..LMAOooo
@Dr Drey, you are very correct Dstv was “launched” in October 1995, but begins “operations” in 1996. That was what I wrote in my earlier response to the former “world footballer of the year” AKA, @Jimmyball. And that was why I keep hammering 96, because that was when they begins operation. I don’t even know why you are wasting your time on that guy, he has been busted left, right and center.
@Dr Drey, pls Jimmy might actually be right ooo, as a rich pikin, multichoice installed a dish in his papa house in 1993 and had been transmitting French league that wasn’t even on terrestrial channels in France to him from SA,
money can do anything now.. Lolz uptill now, he can’t mention the team he was playing for when he was discovered n called to u17camp.
A rich pikin that was playing “Street football” but he was living in G.R.A markudi. He probably thinks everyone is as daft as him.
As for Deo, that guy should stay one lane, if you want to criticize, do so constructively, if you want to hate, let people know you hate, which one be “Rohr is using stale statements” are our boys not young? Does him calling them young means they won’t do what they supposed to do in Afcon? So he should be bragging like our local coaches by saying “we will cage MO Salah and will not touch ball more than once”.. Lolz. And to those that keeps on hammering that we have star studded team, do they realize we only have 3 players in an “averagely” top teams? Which is Napoli and Leicester, and one of them is not even a starter, just a back up… What will Senegal says they have? Morocco nko? I don’t even want to mention Algeria and Tunisia.
I don’t get this people honestly. Anyway @Dr Drey, @Tayo, @Apphilligreat, and other reasonable forumite, enjoy your weekend guys.
I had multichoice in 1995 monkey… We were using free to air receiver since 1993 watching games…
Multichoice entered Nigeria in 1993… during Babangida and June 12 issues…
You guys are very funny. It’s not everyone who grew up poor…
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/10/multichoice-25-years-in-nigeria/amp/
Dr Drey, Rohr has been calling his team “young” from day dot. By now, they should be at least evolving.
That is his term: each to their own. But as you can see, that term is eroding morale in some section and fans.
Rohr’s publicist should help him coin a phrase that will elicit support from fans and galvernise us with (more) uplifting rhetoric.
He says good things at times though.
Please is there a crime in calling a young team young…? Even if Rohr has been there since Gen 1:1 before the word became flesh. Does all the facts and figures on ground prove otherwise, both in age and match experience/no of caps…?
Does young mean weak….? Does young mean afriad…? Is it not with the same young team he has scooped a total of 63 out of a possible 90 points (70%) he has earned in competitive games since being in charge…? His it not with the same young team he was a hair’s breath close to reaching 2019 AFCON finals after we couldnt even qualify for 2 editions back to back…? Is it not with the same Young team he qualified for the next AFCON with an UNPRECEDENTED 2 GAMES TO SPARE despite dropping 4 SOLID points vs Sierraleone…?
Does he have to come in public and panegyrize his team because he wants to “please” fans. Are we the only team going to 2021 AFCON with players playing in Europe…? How many other coaches have you all heard or read already singing the praise of his team, beating chests like an infuriated gorilla or issuing fake assurances thus far.
Rohr has no obligation to please any fan with any statements…..If you dont have faith in this SE squad, millions others do….whether Rohr refers to them as young or not. Y’all want Rohr to do another Mike Brown right…?? Brag brag during friendlies about medal zone and reaching no 5 in world rankings and falter when it matters most. Where was all of Mike Borwns ability to motivate his team and glavanize fans when it got to crunch time…? You guys want a return of headlines on CSN like “SE PROMISES TO ROAST EGYPT”, “EAGLES TO SHED THE BLOOD OF SUDAN”, “NO RETREAT NO SURRENDER – SIASIA” and then we wouldnt even be able to qualify eventually….LMAOOOo.
A man calls a team with average age of 24 and average caps of 23 young and y’all go smacking your heads on the wall…..LMAOOoo…??? Like seriously…?
No wonder politicians easily have their way with Nigerians and even know they can go for as many terms in office even if they are colossal failures. All Nigerians just need is a bit of surreal sense of utopia to be painted to them and boom…they are under your armpit.
The man chooses to call a young team young…..why not let him be and focus your energies on something else. Yes we know every trick in the book has been tried in order to bring him down but it hasnt succeeded till now….so is it ‘my young team’ y’all want to use now…..LMAOoooo.
Common that’s rather cheap, ya’ll should try something else…you can all do better…..LAOOooo
If Rohr calls his team young, everyone is free to call the team whatever name pleases them….call them whatever you like….its a free world the last time I checked.
Yes oo Dr. Drey. It’s almost a first degree murder for Rohr to call his team a young team Lmao!!
@JimmyBall …. 1st you claim league doesn’t define a good player as you’ve fault and blamed Rohr severally about top leagues and team comments , but now you mentioned OWEN and Mbappe both which are playing for the best top four teams in the top 5 league in the world
KEYWORD : BEST TOP FOUR TEAMS IN THE BEST TOP FIVE LEAGUE IN THE WORLD
@1998 . Owen already won the Premier League Golden Boot with LIVERPOOL and was awarded the PFA Young Player of the Year award.
@2018 … Mbappe plays for PSG @1988 .. Owen for LIVERPOOL
Next time , Don’t say top leagues doesn’t matter and top team doesn’t matter cos in reality , It does matters .
You can’t compare QUALITY to QUANTITY
@NA ME TALK AM… As Nigerians we just did not start following football from Rohr era… We have enough material weapon to square against the best in the world… Where is Germany and their national team performance today… What we have is enough for Rohr to win Afcon and atleast reach quarter finals in world cup next year… We should stop fashioning alibis in wait for the coach… he is supposed to be a tactician… that means… one is to use brain power to best his opponents based on tactics against tactics… that’s why we are paying him handsomely… Let him earn his pay or quit than continue to beat our eardrums deaf with “young team” hallelujah songs… We don tire for that hymn!
Now it’s all about we’re paying him handsomely Lmao!! How handsomely??? By owing him arrears of salaries?? Bro you don fall my hand finally. From top 5 leagues to Mbappe won the WorldCup at a young age to Owen showed potential at a young age even though they both played for Liverpool and PSG respectively in those times. Which player do you have at PSG at the moment??? I laugh in German!!!
Hahahaha….leave confused liar let him continue rigmarolling…LMAOOo….he should tell us which of his players has played or plays for Liverpool or PSG since Jayjay. Or which 18 year old from Belarus or Latvia or Czech league has gone on to destroy teams at the world cup….LMAoooo
Please correct me if i am wrong,since when rohr has been appointed,only 3 african team has won a medal at the afcon